VISIT TO ISLE OF MAN BY 2nd EARL OF DERBY IN 1507.

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VISIT TO ISLE OF MAN BY 2nd EARL OF DERBY IN 1507.

Post by aukepalmhof » Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:04 pm

Thomas Stanley, 3rd Lord Stanley, 2nd Earl of Derby, Thomas III of Mann (1484- 1521).
The stamp shows us the Lord, during his visit at the Isle of Man in 1507, with in the background two large cog type vessels which were used around 1500 in the Northern waters. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13804&p=15389&hilit=cog#p15389

As his father had died in 1497,Thomas succeeded his grandfather in 1504 as King of Mann. He was a successful military commander in the armies of Henry VII and Henry VIII.

In the Manx Traditionary Ballad it states: "Then came Thomas Derby, born King, 'Twas he that wore the golden crupper, There was not one Lord in England itself With so many knee -guinea men coming in his country. ...In one thousand five hundred and seven.
And it was in the month of May, He came on shore at Derbyhaven And put a full end to the commotion of the public. Such a house as he kept himself, For a King or down to a low degree, People never saw for countless years, Neither will again in our day."

The extract gives some idea of Thomas's status and his role in the armed forces of England. His brother also sent a small force to help fight against the Scots at the Battle of Flodden Field (1513) and his uncle, Edward Stanley, was regarded as the victor of the battle. Thomas paid a visit to the Isle of Man in 1507.We don't know what the 'commotion of the public' in the Ballad refers to, but in 1504, on his succession, an enquest was undertaken by his senior officials in Mann to determine details of his traditional rights and privileges in Manx law. Thomas continued to be in favour at the courts of Henry VII and Henry VIII, assisting Henry VIII's successful expedition against France in 1513 at the Battle of the Spurs and in 1520, when Henry VIII and the Emperor Charles V (uncle of Henry's Queen, Catherine) met at Canterbury, he rode between them holding the sword of state. He and his wife Anne also attended the meeting with Francis I of France at the Field of the Cloth of Gold that year.

https://manxnationalheritage.im/wp-cont ... -Guide.pdf
Isle of Man 1982 19½p sg?, scott
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large cog used around 1500.png
1982 visit of Thomas, 2nd Earl of derby to the Isle of Man in 1507 landing at derbyhaven.jpg

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