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Victory HMS (Nelson)

Postby john sefton » Thu May 14, 2009 7:44 pm

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1st Rate 104 Guns, built at Chatham Dockyard her keel laid on 23rd July 1759. Launched at Chatham Royal Dockyard in 1765. Named VICTORY because 1759 was the year of Victories, in the seven Years war. Celebrating Land Victories at Quebec and Minden, with the Naval Victories of Lagos and Quiberon Bay. She was launched on the 7th May 1765 she was then de-masted and placed in reserve on the River Medway for 13 years until the War of American Independence.
Her First Captain in March 1778 was John Lindsay, in May 1778 when Admiral Keppel decided to raise his flag in her she was commissioned. She first saw action at Ushant. In 1781 bearing the flag of Admiral Kempenfelt she took part in the 2nd Battle of Ushant.
In 1796 the Flag ship of Admiral John Jervis she saw action at Cape St Vincent. In October 1799 after a period of out of service she was reconditioned.
Admiral Lord Nelson hoisted his flag in her when she was re-commissioned in May 1803.
On the 19th October 1805 she was Nelson's Flagship at Trafalgar. In the Battle she lost 52 men and had 102 wounded, she was damaged and was towed to " Gibraltar firstly and then to Portsmouth.
After Trafalgar, she remained in active service until 1812 and was then preserved in Portsmouth. In 1922, she was taken into drydock and lovingly restored to her 'Trafalgar' condition.
Details from Ted Evans, Liverpool.
Antigua SG278,
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Re: Victory HMS (Nelson)

Postby john sefton » Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:06 pm

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The MS issued by Ghana in 2005 for the 200th Anniversary of the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805, is designed after a painting made by Nicholas Pocock in 1807, which showing five warships in which Nelson served as a captain and flag officer.The stamp is a reverse design of the painting, which shows five ships, the MS gives only four ships, according the inscription on the stamp the HMS AGAMEMNON, VANGUARD, ELEPHANT and CAPTAIN, but that is a mistake, the ship in the foreground on the left side of the stamp is the HMS VICTORY, the AGAMEMNON is not depicted. On the right of the MS in the foreground is show the HMS ELEPHANT, behind her with a broadside view is the VANGUARD, on the right in the foreground the VICTORY and behind her the CAPTAIN.The ships are depicted when drying sails in a calm at Spithead, Portsmouth.
Information supplied by Auke Palmhof.
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Re: Victory HMS (Nelson)

Postby john sefton » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:33 pm

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The first stamps of Great Britain to depict a ship were the 2/6d. (green) and the 5/0d. (red) both issued on 3 May 1951. Under the thirty year embargo which the Post Office imposes the perusal of all correspondence held in its archives it is only fairly recently that it has been possible to discover some of the drama which proceeded the eventual production.
It appears that at least six artists were invited to produce designs for this set and most of these were regarded by the Committee as 'a pretty poor lot', an exception being made at least in the case of a Mrs Mary Adshead. Certainly her handwriting puts many of the other extant letters to shame and is a delight to read. She was clearly a most competant artist having exhibited pictures at the Royal Academy and had specialised in mural painting, including Selfridges in London, a church in Witherington and a salon in the Golden Arrow train. She had previously designed a stamp for the Postal Union in 1949.
However, despite her obvious competence, she seems to have been worked extremely hard, having to produce one design after another before the Committee was completely satisfied with her attempts. First, before the 'Victory' ship design could be accepted it had to receive the Royal approval and at one stage it seems that the King (George VI) would have preferred a picture of the 'The Endeavour' - the exploration ship of Captain Cook. In the end this alteration was not agreed by the Committee although several of his other suggestions were in fact accepted.
After this, Mrs Adshead still had a number of hurdles to surmount before all her work was rewarded by success for next, the Admiralty had to be consulted and this brought a crop of needful corrections, including, among others, the addition of a dolphin striker beneath the bowsprit and one yard on the bowsprit, the removal of one sail on both the mainmast. and the mizzen mast, an alteration of the stays between the foremast and the bowsprit and the correct positioning of the flag on the mainmast.
Next it was the turn of the Naval Construction Department which noted that the anchor flukes should be at right angles to the stock, and that the mainsail should not have been semi-furled while the stun sail were rigged, and the stunsails should have been rigged on the two lower sails on the foremast and mainmast and the yards on the bowsprit should have been fitted underneath.
By this time I am sure the poor artist must have had her head spinning with all the technical detail being thrown at her, all requiring new drawings. She was also instructed to keep in constant close touch with the printers during the whole production process, a technical marathon on its own. Anyone now reading all this material must feel that Mrs Adshead more than earned her fees. She certainly will always have an honoured place among 'Ship Stamp' philatelists as being the first to tread the minefield of British naval preclslon.
Certainly to a laymans eyes the completed picture is an excellent representation of Great Britain's most famous ship and it provided us with a handsome stamp. However, it would be interesting to have the opinion of the knowledgable seamen of the Society as to the complete success of Mrs Adsheads attempt after all the advice that came her way.
As far as the 5/0d. stamp is concerned, soon after its launch a query was raised by one sharp eyed correspondent that the 'large fishing smack in sail is apparently setting off on its journey unmanned'!'. By this time I should think she had endured enough criticism and she replied the photograph from which she had worked had no sign of a man on board so she presumed he was hidden by the sail. Apparently that settled the matter and she does not seem to have been asked to submit any more corrections.
(with grateful thanks to the Postal Archives & Archives Centre staff at Mount Pleasant, London)
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Re: Victory HMS (Nelson)

Postby aukepalmhof » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:40 am

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Mr. Ken Berry did identify the three-decker one the Aruba 2011 250c stamp as the HMS VICTORY, Nelson ship, and I agree with this. The flag shown on the stern of the ship is the Union Jack; this flag was not used before 1801 he gives.
When you enlarge the photo of the second image you clearly can read the name VICTORY.

http://www.wincustomize.com/explore/wallpapers/15812

The last image gives the vessel after which the stamps was designed but reverse.

Regard Auke Palmhof.

St Thomas and Prince 2003 7000 Db sg?, scott?
Gambia 1998 D3 sg2905, scott2065.
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The 35c Anguilla stamp issue in 1981 sg 450 was designed after a painting made in 1807 by Nicholas Pocock, which shows five warships on which Nelson served.
HMS AGAMEMNON on the far left.
HMS VANGUARD a broadside view.
HMS ELEPHANT in front of her, a stern view.
HMS CAPTAIN in the middle distance.
HMS VICTORY in the foreground.

The Nicaragua stamp is also designed after this painting and shows Nelsons flagship HMS VICTORY and in the distance is the HMS CAPTAIN
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Re: Victory HMS (Nelson)

Postby Anatol » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:40 pm

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The stamp Nicaragua 3.0cop written "Vaguard"-is displayed error.On the stamp images"Victoria" is a fragment of the picture Nicolas Pokock-Flagships Nelson.To the right on the picture,- "Victoria".
Nicaragua 1998;3,0сор; SG?
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Re: Victory HMS (Nelson)

Postby Arturo » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:38 pm

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Victory HMS (Nelson)

Djibouti 1981, S.G.?, Scott: 531.

Djibouti 1981, S.G.?, Scott: 532.

Madagascar 1993, S.G.?, Scott: 1131j.

Scotland, Summer Isles, ? ? ?

Jamaica 2005, S.G.?, Scott: 1195.

Jersey 2005, S.G.?, Scott: 1195.

Lesotho 2005, S.G.?, Scott: 1381a.
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Re: Victory HMS (Nelson)

Postby aukepalmhof » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:44 pm

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Chad 2014 700F sg?, scott?
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Mozambique 2015 175.00Mt sg?, scott?
Togo 2015 1500F sg?, scott? also MS, which shows also the HMS TRINCOMALEE of 1817.
Mozambique 2011 175.000MT sgMS?, scott?
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Re: Victory HMS (Nelson)

Postby aukepalmhof » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:58 pm

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Gibraltar 2000 30p sg?, scott 881
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Re: Victory HMS (Nelson)

Postby D. v. Nieuwenhuijzen » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:56 pm

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Isle of Man 2005, block 2 x £1, StG.?
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